I didn't see a reason to respond beyond adding it as just that act I felt was self-explanatory. That said, you're welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed the sheet.
I didn't see a reason to respond beyond adding it as just that act I felt was self-explanatory. That said, you're welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed the sheet.
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Nah I'm gonna defend NINE on this one, dude just gave Lambda heads up about something they asked for. Literally no need to be rude.
If you can't stand them to the extent that you can't manage a polite reply then just ignore the guy, geez.
bit late but Sandman is really well done concept in general i must say the skills are really fitting in my opinion ,though at the Nobpephantasm have you described the sand itself good but the application of the dream world is i find missing Baron. I must say a really well done servant would be curious what would he think of heroic spirit servants that succeeded in making their dreams real as that would be interesting like onne line about the wright brothers and the dream on flying .
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Koga: Thank you for the feedback. I didn't get into the applications because there are too many to count. If I did, I'd run well past the character limit. I mean... when you can manipulate peoples dreams skys the limit.
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Taira no Masakado: Pretty interesting, never heard of this guy before, but then again my Japanese history rep is lacking. Also, I must commend you for the improvements in your formatting. He has solid characterization, but unfortunately, I'd say, the skill sets doesn't really fit his established concept.
First off, for someone who is centered around rebellion, he only got Independent Action (a generic class skill) for something remotely related to it, and his Noble Phantasm doesn't really have any rebellion theme either. For inspiration, you might want to take a look to similar rebel servant like Lu Bu and Spartacus. I'm also curious why he's not an Avenger, given his NP and the fact that he doesn't have any notable sword abilities for a Saber.
Lastly, one general nitpick I have with your sheets, I think, is that you hold back too much in terms of over-powering your servants. No need for overly fancy or overpowered skills (like i do), just go wild and give them whatever cool anime power you have in mind.
Last edited by Kamera; November 18th, 2021 at 10:26 PM.
"Apelles, Servant La- oh dear, I've been summoned as Lancer? That's scary, a powerless Servant like me would be much more suited to the atelier than a battlefield. Still, since you've been gracious enough to patronize me I'll do my best... Very well, this brush shall be your spear, and I humbly swear to paint a future where we are victorious."
Servant Lancer:
Appearance:
True Name: Apelles
Alignment: Neutral Good
Alternate Classes: Caster, Assassin
Armament: Giant paintbrush he wields like a halberd, leaving trails of ink behind every "slash". Lancer can also project elements of his paintings to attack with, like horses emerging from foamy ink to trample foes or Greek warriors clad in armor.
Strength- E
Agility- C+
Endurance- D
Mana- C
Luck- C
NP- B+
Personality
Class Skills:
Magic Resistance- D
Confers protection against magical effects. At this rank only Single-Action spells are cancelled. Magic Resistance equivalent in degree to an amulet that rejects magical energy.
Personal Skills:
Three Great Strokes- A
A sublimation of the famous episode where Lancer came to visit the fellow painter Protogenes who wasn't home at the time. He announced his presence by leaving a line in extremely fine ink across the canvas. When Protogenes returned he immediately realized this to be a challenge from Lancer and drew a second even finer line over the first. Upon seeing this Lancer decisively surpassed his rival by splitting the two lines with a third impossibly fine one, putting an end to the contest.
Those three lines were preserved for centuries where they were even displayed in the palace of Emperor Augustus as a testimony to the painter's splendid simplicity. As a Skill combined with the anecdote where he was said to practice by drawing at least a line every day this expresses Lancer's capacity to surpass the opponent by going beyond his own prior work. Precision of his "" progressively rises as long as he's facing the same opponent, allowing Lancer to eventually overwhelm them in skill.attacksbrushstrokes
Eternal Arms Mastery (Painting)- B+
A Skill for one whose mastery of their art has reached the point of being unrivalled in their era. By complete merging of mind, body and technique, it is possible to make use of full skills even when under the influence of any sort of mental hindrance. Lancer was extolled by the historian Pliny to be far and wide the greatest painter of his era. Furthermore this Skill is strengthened by how the philosopher Sextus Empericus used Lancer as an example to illustrate whatlooks like.Ataraxiamental imperturbability
According to legend once when trying to paint a scene of a horse Lancer struggled with depicting the seafoam the beast rose out of in Greek Mythology. Reduced to frustration he threw his sponge violently against the medium, only to find it unconsciously produced the perfect effects of seafoam. This ensures that Lancer's technique actually increases under the effects of certain mental interference, for absent his conscious anxieties and doubts dulling his movements he's able to guide the brush without any thought at all.
Human Observation (Death)- C
A mutation of the Human Observation Skill given to those famous for discerning others' time of death. While Lancer himself did not have this ability in life it was said his artwork was so realistic that a "Metoposcopos" (one who foretells a human's fate from the ratio of their facial features) could divine the date of death of those depicted solely by using his portraits as reference. This realizes in a unique form ofthat enables Lancer to gain glimpses of a subject's future death by painting them. Upon painting someone Lancer can glean a vague premonition of when and how they'll die, that coalesces into accuracy the closer the demise and how detailed he was able to depict them.soul-readingpsychometry
For Heroic Spirits whose deaths are already in the past this Skill works the opposite way by allowing Lancer to reconstruct the date and circumstances of their death through painting. Following the old adage that a person's death testifies to who they were in life this is a valuable asset for uncovering an enemy Servant's true name and weaknesses. Heroes famed for their manner of death like Achilles will certainly have their identities exposed by his brush.
Lancer himself is somewhat disturbed by this Skill, finding it macabre and going against his sensibilities as an artist. Though he'll still make use of it when necessary. In the Assassin Class this would be sublimated into a Noble Phantasm that goes beyond mere prediction to outright enforcing a given target's fate of death through painting.
Noble Phantasm
So here's another sheet from me. Found the guy while doing research for my Phryne Servant and had him vaguely on my to-do list ever since. As usual comments and critiques would be welcome. Thanks for reading!
Last edited by RoydGolden; April 21st, 2023 at 10:40 PM.
Kamera: thank you for the feedback. I looked at the sheet and admit I'm confused. Not because I don't get what your saying but because I'm finding something I had added to the skill Divine Emperor is completely missing; The inversion of command spells. I always intended for that to be a feature of his skill set. Thinking more, I might add something else. As for his NP to me that curse should be it. I wouldn't say its the sole defining moment of his life but its the most impactful as that shrine is maintained even to the modern day out of no one wanting to test if the curse is real. Anyway, I've made the changes to the skill. As for the last comment... I mean I didn't notice? I do have one servant I wrote for a fanfic that... is ugly in terms of power. I can post that if you want. Note: it's Ravana.
Apelles: This is a great servant. I like that he's a lancer the most. Most art servants are casters, foreigners or something else but you went and made him a lancer. I dunno if that decision or the complete lack of justification are better.
Last edited by Baron Magnus; November 19th, 2021 at 06:03 AM.
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damn, I didn't even notice he has a hidden 4th skill lmao. but yeah, it adds much more now. i'd even argue that that skill should be a Noble Phantasm. also, please do post your Ravana, i'm curious of how you handle higher power-level ceiling.
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Apelles: Oh, I've heard of this guy before and always wanted to see him as a Servant. Like Magnus said, I also like that he's a Lancer painter. I assume the Thunderbolt is the reason he's Lancer. Overall he's great and as usual good job. If I had to criticize, probably it's that you tend to limit the servant's potential with the "he'll have this in another class, maybe" thing. Unless, maybe you do plan to write him as other class, I'd say it's better to fit it all in one go.
I too wonder what BS hax ravana would possess.
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"So the drums of war sound again... I am servant Rider... this war is already won, master"
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Class: Rider
True Name: Ravana
Origin: Hindu Mythology
Alignment: Chaotic-Evil
Likes: Woman, Gold, Worshipping the Creators, and Fighting
Dislikes: Rama and War
Talents: Power and Commanding
Natural Enemy: Rama
Other Classes: Saber, Berserker, and Gunner.
Catalyst: A fragment of his chariot, some of his remains, or the Sword of Shiva.
Armaments: Sword of Shiva (A), Pushpaka Vimana Armaments (B)
"As you can see, my reputation should precede me."
Parameters
Spoiler:
"I am strong and invincible. So long as Rama does not appear, we will win"
Lore
Spoiler:
"Rama was truly a worthy foe. I wish I had known beforehand... ahh, the fight we would've had! A glorious match to the end of time we could have committed!"
Class Skills
Riding: B+
Spoiler:
"My divine palace is but part of my might... yet I admit, it is my most useful tool"
Divine Protection of Brahma: A++
Spoiler:
"My divine protection... my greatest asset. I will always praise Brahma for his benevolence"
Personal Skills
Monstrous Strength: A
Spoiler:
"Is my strength so shocking? Honestly... I don't come even close to what I did in life... though that is the lot of servants"
Mana Burst: A
Spoiler:
"Yes, the decline of mystery and this class container restrain me so much. Oh, don't misunderstand. I could devastate a city still, though now it requires all my power, rather than ten percent."
Personality
Spoiler:
"My philosophy is wrong...? How? Why should I restrain myself? Why don't they force me?"
Interactions
Spoiler:
Vaisravana
"Greedy? Me? How foolish. I cannot be greedy if I own everything... a fact that I've yet to meet someone strong enough to disprove..."
Noble Phantasms
Dasis Sakvithi Maha RavanaTen Heads of the Demon King
Type: Protection
Rank: A
Spoiler:
Devataon ka Udata MahalDivine Flying Palace Pushpaka Vimana
Type: Anti-Army
Rank: B+
Spoiler:
"Behold, my divine chariot. Behold and weep oh lowly mortals for your judgment hath come"
So yeah. Not much is different from how I wrote him. I merely altered some things with my understanding of how things in nasuverse work. It was actually nice that he can mostly work in nasuverse even though I wrote him for a somewhat different setting that used servants.
Last edited by Baron Magnus; November 19th, 2021 at 10:45 AM.
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Cool lancer royd! I will always appreciate when artists of all kinds are not a simple caster. Getting creative with the tools of them is what I like the most. Making him a Lancer with the FC makes it obvious to me that he should be one even before seeing his NP. The application of the skills are the best part of it. I will probably rip off one of them in a future sheet.
my criticism is the same as last time with your Foreigner.
pictures.
I am not sure this can be applied here tho. Are the two mentioned works still around?
Kinda agree and disagree. Royd made several versions of certain figures, i mean he has 5 cains i believe. But yeah not all get this treatment.
If you think there is enough material to warrant a completely new sheet, then continue what you are doing. But if you only have a few ideas what would be different, I think what Master of Chaos likes to do is the coolest method. A spoiler text with the skills they would have in the other class.
As a sidenote, sometimes I wonder if we throw too much possible alternative classes around. I mean when are they warranted? are they reserved for names of bigger stature and such?
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Well, with all servants, I feel like they depend on how well known they are for doing things that would befit the class. For example, for my Samuel sheet I did a while back, I chose two classes that he could possibly appear as if I remember correctly, being Ruler and Caster (with Caster being the one I did). I feel those both make sense since as a Caster he embodies the mentor prophet figure, much like Merlin; on the other hand Ruler would make sense for him due to not only being considered the last Biblical Judge by some, but also due to the fact that he served for God rather than himself.
To compare this to other things (not to knock any of you who do this because I think some sheets that do this are really cool), if someone were to let's say make an artist servant qualify for Archer or something like that, unless they had something in their legend that leaves them being known for shooting or throwing something, either figuratively to literally (though not too loose figuratively, they would not actually qualify for that class.
Ravana: His divine protection of Brahma seems way too powerful to be a mere skill and should be a noble phantasm. His strength stat should have be A+ At least due to his monstrous strength. Shouldn’t his sword of shiva be a noble phantasm due to it being a divine construct?
Ravana: Pretty cool. I particularly like his version of Vimana. He sounds pretty strong alright, but unfortunately I think his power level comes off as somewhat one-dimensional. He still suffer from the same problems I've pointed out. His skill sets just way too generic, I think adding a unique spin to these skills are really important, especially for well known figures likes him. His first NP is also just a glorified Battle Continuation honestly, and his Protection of Brahma feels like it should be an NP instead. Overall, there's still a lot to improve on this one. Still a solid character, it's just that the overall concept is lacking. Most importantly though, how does he not have a line for his elder brother (sister), my Vaisravana smh.
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Yeah no, kind of hard to include paintings that no longer exist.
Nine: To be clear, this is the original version that i used in the fanfic and am still using until I finish writing. Like, this was basically made after the morrigan V1. that said i can share some of the thoughts from when I first wrote it; first the divine protection replaces magic resistance wholesale so if a human uses magecraft he can't really do much other than try to power through it. There's also the fact that technically the skill does belong to others its just Ravana's that's so powerful. For example Arunasura's would negate the damage from any two-legged or four-legged beings. Finally, in regards to the sword, not really. There's no mention anywhere that it's anything more than an unbreakable sword and so the thought is that it simply is non-functional beyond that limited use for Ravana. It's pretty much like Mordred and Clarent without the fact that Clarent boosts her mana burst. Also, made the change to his strength parameter. That said, if I remake the sheet I will definitely use some of the things you pointed out to refine the sheet as I do agree regarding that protection being a NP and there'll be way more thought put into him beyond.
Kamera: Going to edit to reply. This Ravana is from very early on when I made sheets. If I remember right I made him like a week after i finished the morrigan version 1 (which funny that was made because I was using her too) and needed him for something going on. That said, when I get around to his rewrite i can say he'll definitely be different. After Taira I feel way more confident about writing unique skills. I can't say all of the generic ones will vanish, as sometimes I find that a generic accomplishes what I want out of a servant (Mana Burst seriously does a lot of what he does in legend like literally flying autonomously and beheading a god with barely a thought). As for noble phantasms... how do I put this... ten heads is weaker than brahma's protection and because of that I do now feel that they should be switched. I didn't feel that back then but I do now. Actually forgot to mention that his one-dimension in this iteration... can't say it's intentional but when written I intended him to be a sort of massive wall.
Last edited by Baron Magnus; November 19th, 2021 at 11:17 AM.
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Thanks for the response.
I'll be looking forward to that reworked Ravana