Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Aozaki-desu]

My Koyan is getting maxed out tonight
Dark days ahead

[madarra]

This is true, and technically normal even for non-online games (Though that's very firmly at "who cares" territory) but just because they hold the right to do something doesn't mean that they should use that right in a scenario like this.
It should not be the player's duty to determine what is and what isn't intentional.

Obviously, players who had this glitch occur would, at least some of them, just click the "collect all" button assuming it's new stuff or something. Do they deserve getting their account taken behind the shed? Obviously not. Could Lasagne do that? Obviously.
Should the guy that spent 4 months beating ORT get banned for doing something that was not intended? No, duh.
You can continue to lower or increase this bar as much as you want, but the idea remains the same.

Even if it's obvious that something weird is happening, that's on Lasagne. Do what must be done to fix the issue, and preferably not strike the fear of god into players while at it.

https://youtube.com/shorts/6OdiGbXQu...DjFxSCcm3oxpoM

assuming this supposed Blizzard method is common procedure, accidental exploitation gets overlooked, intentional minor exploitation gets catalogued for future offence and abuse gets banned


mind you, i still dont know if Lasengle can properly identify players, since their tracking method for account recovery seems to be analyzing a accounts entire roster for matches

[Some Jerk]

They're trying to lean into her Anti-Dragon side more while giving her a bit better mileage against Demonic as well, I see. Too bad it's not an NP upgrade as that's probably more desired. Guess they're trying to fix her inconsistencies and give her light touchups before seeing if the real problem is due to the lack of damage from the NP.

So, out of the 7 Demonic + Dragons, there's only 4 Servants that she has class advantage for. Shuten, Oni-cure, Kijyo Koyo and Summer Ibuki.

You could also field her with Georgios and have him go "You're a dragon now" before exploding to let Sitonai double-dip on the powermods. Quite a few Demonic-trait enemies and Servants are Cavalry Classes to boot.

[Formless Creature]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6OdiGbXQu...DjFxSCcm3oxpoM

assuming this supposed Blizzard method is common procedure, accidental exploitation gets overlooked, intentional minor exploitation gets catalogued for future offence and abuse gets banned


mind you, i still dont know if Lasengle can properly identify players, since their tracking method for account recovery seems to be analyzing a accounts entire roster for matches

The comments under this video are funny.

[AceSockVims]

You could also field her with Georgios and have him go "You're a dragon now" before exploding to let Sitonai double-dip on the powermods. Quite a few Demonic-trait enemies and Servants are Cavalry Classes to boot.

Honestly, Georgios' "If she breathes, SHE'S A DRAGON!!!" NP is still the funniest Noble Phantasm to this day for me. Like, he can just do that, and then use another NP that is effective against dragons.

[Rinko]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6OdiGbXQu...DjFxSCcm3oxpoM

assuming this supposed Blizzard method is common procedure, accidental exploitation gets overlooked, intentional minor exploitation gets catalogued for future offence and abuse gets banned


mind you, i still dont know if Lasengle can properly identify players, since their tracking method for account recovery seems to be analyzing a accounts entire roster for matches

Really, it doesn't matter what other companies do, my personal belief is simply that it's not something that should be done.
Put it on having a history with false positives in terms of cheating and the like I guess.

They have to have a better system for tracking this stuff. No way they don't track as much stuff as possible. Maybe I shouldn't assume that, since it is Lasagne and all, but still. They track your rolls very carefully, and this is roll adjacent by nature.

[Zork Knight]

Honestly, Georgios' "If she breathes, SHE'S A DRAGON!!!" NP is still the funniest Noble Phantasm to this day for me. Like, he can just do that, and then use another NP that is effective against dragons.

I'm waiting for the upgrade that gives Georgios 5-T 100% anti-dragon buff on a skill

[manafusion]

I'm waiting for the upgrade that gives Georgios 5-T 100% anti-dragon buff on a skill

I'm waiting for his NP upgrade to permanently apply Dragon trait until removed. Yes, our resident gigachad dragon trait-applying tank doesn't have an NP upgrade. Or an upgrade in general.

[Link0306]

He should have a 100% np battery so he can have his bond ce applied too for cqs.

[manafusion]

He should have a 100% np battery so he can have his bond ce applied too for cqs.

I don't think he should be a do-it-all tank. You have the option to either use him as a tank and hard party support or you can use him as a Dragon trait applier. But not both; not for a 2* Servant.

I mean... you could have your cake and eat it too if and whenever they decide to implement Bond CE slots or integrate them as passives.

[Daemon]

Lasengle's fail company apology quartz got me ereshkigal, the fail girl. Happy to finally own the decent character with the absolute worst fanbase ever.

[Lily Emilio]

The 30 apologems got me lewdhi. How good is she for farming or since she'll go into standard banner she's mid?

[Aozaki-desu]

She's mid as a looper on the account of refund values (great damage tho), but she has 80% self-charge and her NP buffs, she is probably terrific as a 1st wave clearer for your other quick dealer in double skadi team

[Lily Emilio]

Welp I don't have double Skadi (I do have the OG Skadi but not the summer ver). Hope it is enough.

[manafusion]

The 30 apologems got me lewdhi. How good is she for farming or since she'll go into standard banner she's mid?

Her looping comp that involves BG is double Summer Skadi + Oberon.




Note that this is against Zerkers so, against non-Assassins/Zerkers, you probably get enough refund to be able to run double Skadi instead of double Summer Skadi. If you level Append 2, you can just save the double Skadi charges for Turn 2 instead but Append 2 is not really necessary for solo looping... helps for multi-core though. For reference, my farming comp for 90++ rn is Louhi + Summer Hokusai + Castoria + Oberon and they're running non-MLB lotto CEs (30% starting NP). Without the 20% from Append 2, the comp wouldn't be able to 3T clear without Louhi carding on Turn 2.

[Lily Emilio]

Hmm I see. Looks like Oberon + Skadi + support Skadi works for the berserker 90+ node in the event, I'll auto with that.

[rxrx]

How do you loop 90++this time round?

[Aozaki-desu]

How do you loop 90++this time round?

your usual big fuck you oberon team with bhg/5 drop ces
6ce requires insane fuck you levels, most people run 1 aoe / 1 st servant

[Nedog]

The first one from this video worked really well for me
The one with Tlaloc and Hephaestion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJCUMMusbc

[manafusion]

How do you loop 90++this time round?

your usual big fuck you oberon team with bhg/5 drop ces
6ce requires insane fuck you levels, most people run 1 aoe / 1 st servant

I don't see "insane fuck you levels" in my comp unless you meant for solo AoE Servants. I 6CE with Louhi + Summer Hokusai + Castoria + Oberon. CE being MLB-ed doesn't matter since I have Louhi's Append 2 maxed.

Turn order:
Turn 1: Louhi S1, Castoria S1 + S2 onto Louhi -> Louhi NP
Turn 2: Summer Hokusai S3, Castoria S3 onto Summer Hokusai, plug Oberon S1, Louhi S3 -> Summer Hokusai NP
Turn 3: Summer Hokusai S1, Oberon S2 + S3 onto Summer Hokusai, Mystic Code S1 -> Louhi NP into Summer Hokusai NP (in that specific order)

If you get an MLB lotto CE on Louhi, you can skip Castoria's S2 onto Louhi and use it on Summer Hokusai so that's one skill less to use per run. If you don't have (or can't get) a Louhi with either MLB lotto CE or Append 2 maxed, you'll need to plug Oberon on Turn 1 and use Louhi's card on Turn 2 to get at least 5% NP before using Summer Hokusai's NP.


EDIT : Actually, can't Nito Alter replace Louhi in my setup? Now that I think of it, I think it's just a better setup to run Nito Alter since she has 100% NP charge and don't need to card. But you do lose the 40% NP Damage Up that Louhi gives which then gets doubled by Oberon's buff... Gimme a moment to test this.

EDIT 2: NP2 Nito Alter and she fails to clear Wave 1. Truly needs class advantage here since the AoE Servant isn't getting much buffs from the setup. And an MLB lotto CE for Summer Hokusai.