Create your own Modern Fiction Servants

[Lycodrake]

Sorry to break it to you, Break, but Word of Nasu already covered this.

[SeiKeo]

hm btu in the context of the nasuverse; i#d have to disagree with it; im sure Kiritsugu is not the only one with a mystic code in the shape of a Modern Weapon, and those can only be used to their full potential by their holders inthis case, right? also they are pretty amazing. and really any magically enhanced modern weapon would e rpetty amazing and depending on the magic used not exactly usable by anyone..and like i said, i dont see why a heroic spirit would be chosen solely dependong on the type of weapon they use. what if, for example, during a war between two super-nations who fight over a poor country full of, lets say, oil,, a single soldier deserts both freind and enemy and instead turns to help the villagers and people of the coutnry who really suffer from it. maybe he is an amateur magus too, or got to own a special magic weapon/magically enhanced modern weapon which assists him in taking down the troups that interfere with his self-imposed mission of rescuing the residents of the coutnry who dont have any other way of defendign against the overwhelming enemy. that would be pretty dammn heroic, and he would surely be idolized by them and turned into a national hero or idol. his weapon would qualify for the basis for an NP too. (this is basicaly the concept for a Servant from the future i was plannign to use in the story i planned to write before the motivation to write it was defeated by the lazyness and its arguments " i have other stuff to do".)
..god my writing is messy, i apologize for that. i tend to type kidna fast which results in typo's. i know that, but i still do it, shame on me

English, motherfucker, can you type it.

No seriously, the enter and shift keys are nice, use them.

[Break]

@lycodrake true, but Nasu is kidna inconsistent on his Word of God anyways, it almost seems like he's makng up answers on the spot when interviewed, sometimes... and it wouldnt be the first time one he contradicted himself with whats canon and whats not...

@LeopardBear Not sure if you can read, i already apologized for my way of typing in the post itself.

[Lycodrake]

I'm extremely certain that he has not contradicted himself on this point, though. Unless he says elsewhere that a modern weapon user could become a Heroic Spirit. I do not believe he has ever done so.

[SeiKeo]

Turns out, this is one of the things there isn't a contradiction for.

[Mr. House]

@LeopardBear Not sure if you can read, i already apologized for my way of typing in the post itself.

What Leo is trying to say is that the entire wall of text is a clusterfuck. Use shift for capitalization and enter once you finish a paragraph (5-7 sentences).

[Prince Charon]

Turns out, this is one of the things there isn't a contradiction for.

The fact that there are contradictions for other things throws everything in some doubt, though.

[SeiKeo]

The fact that there are contradictions for other things throws everything in some doubt, though.

Not really, no? Especially since the 'contradictions' are mostly just contradictions between word of god and fanon people aren't ready to give up.

[Riven]

Not really, no? Especially since the 'contradictions' are mostly just contradictions between word of god and fanon people aren't ready to give up.

Yea. This.

[Satehi]

hm btu in the context of the nasuverse; i#d have to disagree with it; im sure Kiritsugu is not the only one with a mystic code in the shape of a Modern Weapon, and those can only be used to their full potential by their holders inthis case, right? also they are pretty amazing.

Kiritsugu is an exception, not a rule. Magi do not typically use modern weapons at all- Kiritsugu is noted as an outcast for that.

and really any magically enhanced modern weapon would e rpetty amazing and depending on the magic used not exactly usable by anyone

No, not really. Kiritsugu's mystic code is pretty extraordinary in its case: it's based off origin stuff, which is why it's so powerful and thus makes it only eligible to be used by him. How usable a mystic code is depends on the type. Typical mystic codes would probably be a decent bit weaker, especially if it was made in the modern era, and in the shape of a modern weapon. Besides, even though Kiritsugu's mystic code is pretty sweet, thanks his origin haxing, he himself isn't good enough to qualify for HS tier.

and like i said, i dont see why a heroic spirit would be chosen solely dependong on the type of weapon they use.

It's been mentioned before that the Holy Grail actually only chooses Servants from a list that can be fitted into the classes.

Old age weapons simply require more skill to use than a modern weapon, which is usually point and click.

maybe he is an amateur magus too, or got to own a special magic weapon/magically enhanced modern weapon which assists him in taking down the troups that interfere with his self-imposed mission of rescuing the residents of the coutnry who dont have any other way of defendign against the overwhelming enemy.

So it's the weapon that makes him powerful, in which case it would be the weapon that would be closer to HS tier then himself. There's still the matter that this soldier dude is not amazing enough on his own.

that would be pretty dammn heroic, and he would surely be idolized by them and turned into a national hero or idol. his weapon would qualify for the basis for an NP too.

Unless you're having him save the whole country somehow, he wouldn't really be idolized and worshiped enough to qualify for Heroic Spirit tier.

Also why are we talking prospective fanfiction ideas, I thought we were talking about actual canon.

[Zalgo Jenkins]

Counter Guardian, normal Throne bullshit does not apply. (and don't you even try and say Simo was a CG too, no dice)

In the interest of helping somebody write a fic with Simo, would this setup work within Nasuverse rules?

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The Edelfelt family collects Simo's artifacts --> Luvia summons Vainamoinen as a hax Caster --> Vainamoinen summons Simo's wraith as False Assassin

[I3uster]

As long as AM is involved you can screw the rules for your fic anyway. Just don't assume it works in a canon work, because he's a gun user, and those are weaksauce.

[Zalgo Jenkins]

As long as AM is involved you can screw the rules for your fic anyway.

I'm not planning to write it myself, sadly. Too much on my plate already. I just thought I'd throw it out there if anyone needed it.

Just don't assume it works in a canon work, because he's a gun user, and those are weaksauce.

Yeah, I guess I should have said "does this avoid blatantly contradicting canon".

[I3uster]

Kojirou's situation is different, though it works as wank.

It's impossible to include him without breaking canon (unless you go the CG route), so wanking it this way shouldn't break suspension of disbelief anymore than the inclusion of a gun-using Servant already does.

[Ars Poetica]

Gun users are weaksauce? Yeah... I'm not buying that. Give him EX Luck and throw him in the fray. That's what they did for Fem!Drake.

[SeiKeo]

Good luck giving Pioneer of the Stars to someone who more or less didn't change anything?

[Satehi]

But my Servanto can defeat Drake even without using a Noble Phantasm, gun n00b clearly should have went back to the kitchen and let real Servants do the fighting.

[Riven]

But my Servanto can defeat Drake even without using a Noble Phantasm, gun n00b clearly should have went back to the kitchen and let real Servants do the fighting.

You had a Noble Phantasm. It's called "Plot."

[Satehi]

You had a Noble Phantasm. It's called "Plot."

Pics or it didn't exist.

[Gunbazca]

Oh dear. Well, i go with statting things then~

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Drizzt Do'Urden
"I am no man's master, nor would I ever want to be."


image (c) Chiseko100Yeah @ pixiv

The Drow of Ten-Towns, and one of the most accomplished sword-fighter there is.
Growing up amongst the treacherous and cruel drows, Drizzt's formative years were rocky and full of dangers despite him being born into a noble family. Luckily, his father Zaknafein was there to guard him from most of the horrendous acts their race does on a daily basis. Drow society chafed badly on Drizzt, so when his father died, he escaped his city and family, and embarks on a long journey of adventure and self-discovery...

Possible Class: Saber, Assassin, Archer
Gender: Male
Master: ????

Parameters

STR C
END C
AGI B
MAG E
LUK C
Noble Phantasm B


Class Skills

* Presence Concealment C+
(Assassin-specific class skill)
This skill reflects the capacity to hide one's presence as a Servant. At this rank, Drizzt can pass through most manners of manned guarding with ease, spy an individual or event without being detected, as well as hide his presence as a Servant. With the activation of Mask of Lies, the effectiveness of this skill is augmented further.

* Magic Resistance A
(Saber-specific class skill)
This skill grants protection against magical effects. Differently from the Resistance effect that merely rejects prana, this ability cancels the spells altogether. Important to note that the term "verse" seen below refers to a set of three lines. Thus, a chant of two verses is equivalent to a Six-Line incantation. At this rank, Drizzt is practically untouchable to modern magi, so it would not be an exaggeration to title the Servant a "Magus Killer".

* Independent Action B
(Archer-specific class skill)
This skill reflects the ability to remain independent even when rejecting the prana supply from the Master. At the higher ranks it is also possible to remain for extended periods of time in this world without an established contract. At this rank, Drizzt is capable of remaining in this world for two days without an established contract. Also capable of living on for a short period of time after suffering extensive damage on his spiritual core.


Personal Skills

* Innocent Monster C [1]
This skill represents the distortion on one's image caused by the image that was born from the public perception. Due to the drow's fearsome reputation, Drizzt in his true form is highly distrusted. Even in the modern day, Drizzt’s drow form still causes an instinctive distrust and the feeling of wrongness among humans. Iincidentally, Drizzt need not be transformed for the skill to take effect because this skill affects his true form, and the use of Mask of Lies negates this skill as it transformed Drizzt to a more 'normal' form.

* Eye of Mind (False) B
This skill reflects an innate talent to sense and avoid danger based on intuition, that can also be called the Sixth Sense or prescience, gained through many ordeals and adventures. As a natural talent to avoid danger, it greatly differs from Eye of the Mind (True), which is danger avoidance that originates from “predictions augmented by experience”. The long years of tutelage under his father and his adventuring years has honed Drizzt's senses to an almost supernatural degree. He is almost impossible to corner, and can see through hasty/half-hearted feints.


Noble Phantasm

Guenhwyvar [The Unfailing Companion]
Type: Support
Target: <summoned creature>
Rank: C
Range: operates semi-independently of Drizzt
This Noble Phantasm summons the shadow panther Guenhwyvar. Can only be activated for four hours a day, though the duration need not be consecutive. It can't be slain unless the onyx figurine on Drizzt's person is destroyed; if slain, it rests for two days before able to be called again. It can't speak, but is intelligent. Drizzt can't see through its eyes, but it can confer knowledge to Drizzt or his Master without the use of Animal Dialogue skill.

Mask of Lies [Agatha's Valued Possession]
Type: Support
Target: Self
Rank: E
Range: N/A
Can only be invoked if Drizzt is summoned into the Assassin class
This Noble Phantasm enables Drizzt to change his looks (facial features, ears, hair) and skin tone, but not his general body plan (weight, height, etc). Using this NP negates the Innocent Monster skill for the duration of activation, and also enables Drizzt to easier blend in with the crowd.

Twinkle & Icingdeath [Twin Fangs of The Drow]
Type: Anti-Unit
Target: <weapon>
Rank: C (improves to B if Drizzt is summoned into the Saber class)
Range: N/A
Cannot be invoked if Drizzt is summoned into the Archer class
Twinkle and Icingdeath are Drizzt's most treasured weapons. Icingdeath confers a resistance to fire, while Twinkle has a chance to negate a living enemy's defenses. Drizzt's swordmanship with these two swords is a sight to behold, and while the two swords are relatively low in raw power, Drizzt's mastery more than makes up for it.

Taulmaril [The Heartseeker]
Type: Anti-Unit
Target: 1
Rank: B
Range: up to 600 ft
Can only be invoked if Drizzt is summoned into the Archer class
The bow given to Drizzt by a dear friend of his. This Noble Phantasm consists of a longbow and quiver. The bow is masterfully crafted and a sight to behold, while the equally-exquisite quiver contains twenty silvery-tipped white arrows which never ran out (should Drizzt expend all of them, it regenerates in two hours). When an arrow was fired from Heartseeker, it became a whistling streak of silver light that could easily bury themselves halfway into solid stone, leaving a burned scorch mark. After a few minutes, arrows fired from Taulmaril magically dissolve with a minor hissing sound, leaving no mark but the arrow's entry (and exit, if there's any) hole.


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[1]: Not entirely sure of this skill. I can swap it out for Eternal Arms Mastership if it doesn't fit.